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	<title>Comments on: Library 2.0: The road ahead</title>
	<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/</link>
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		<title>By: Library 2.0 Roundup - Redux &#171; Life as I Know It</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-175697</link>
		<dc:creator>Library 2.0 Roundup - Redux &#171; Life as I Know It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Library 2.0: The road ahead - posted on December 13, 2005. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Library 2.0: The road ahead - posted on December 13, 2005. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-156439</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-156439</guid>
		<description>I have had similar experiences to the network admin.  Most of the time that IT here pushes back on library requests is because the library people simply don't understand the bigger picture.

Lib: "Oh we want to use this product"
IT:  "Uh...how are you planning to populate that with data?"

From there I get one of two responses. Either:

a) Lib: "Oh, we didn't think of that"

or

b) Lib: "Oh it uses LDAP, we use LDAP so we will just use LDAP"

...and of course you can replace "populate that with data" with other large scale problems (i.e. "Integrate that with our authentication infrastructure", "Plan for failover with that", "Secure that", etc..) and "LDAP" can be replaced with a bunch of other poorly understood technologies or the perennial "lots of other institutions use this so why can't we?"

I don't really mean to pick on our Library here because this problem is spread across our institution but if my IT dept is pushing back its because there is something technically wrong with your approach and we aren't in the business of delivering poor solutions.

As for the nomenclature (L2)?  Considering the author didn't say much about what exactly they mean it seems a bad idea to invent terms that don't really say very much (or say altogether too much for that matter)
    Just saying "mock-ups, prototypes, RSS feeds, collaborative development, memes, and library blogs" is actually far less information, from an implementation POV than you think.  If you want to be taken seriously by an IT Department you need to provide a requirements list, show them wireframes or a project plan.  Because, if they are anything like the shops I'm familiar with every single day they get someone who tells them about their big (entirely unimplementable) idea.  It's up to you to convince them that you're different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had similar experiences to the network admin.  Most of the time that IT here pushes back on library requests is because the library people simply don&#8217;t understand the bigger picture.</p>
<p>Lib: &#8220;Oh we want to use this product&#8221;<br />
IT:  &#8220;Uh&#8230;how are you planning to populate that with data?&#8221;</p>
<p>From there I get one of two responses. Either:</p>
<p>a) Lib: &#8220;Oh, we didn&#8217;t think of that&#8221;</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>b) Lib: &#8220;Oh it uses LDAP, we use LDAP so we will just use LDAP&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;and of course you can replace &#8220;populate that with data&#8221; with other large scale problems (i.e. &#8220;Integrate that with our authentication infrastructure&#8221;, &#8220;Plan for failover with that&#8221;, &#8220;Secure that&#8221;, etc..) and &#8220;LDAP&#8221; can be replaced with a bunch of other poorly understood technologies or the perennial &#8220;lots of other institutions use this so why can&#8217;t we?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really mean to pick on our Library here because this problem is spread across our institution but if my IT dept is pushing back its because there is something technically wrong with your approach and we aren&#8217;t in the business of delivering poor solutions.</p>
<p>As for the nomenclature (L2)?  Considering the author didn&#8217;t say much about what exactly they mean it seems a bad idea to invent terms that don&#8217;t really say very much (or say altogether too much for that matter)<br />
    Just saying &#8220;mock-ups, prototypes, RSS feeds, collaborative development, memes, and library blogs&#8221; is actually far less information, from an implementation POV than you think.  If you want to be taken seriously by an IT Department you need to provide a requirements list, show them wireframes or a project plan.  Because, if they are anything like the shops I&#8217;m familiar with every single day they get someone who tells them about their big (entirely unimplementable) idea.  It&#8217;s up to you to convince them that you&#8217;re different.</p>
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		<title>By: iLibrarian &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Is Library 2.0?</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-123938</link>
		<dc:creator>iLibrarian &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Is Library 2.0?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 18:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-123938</guid>
		<description>[...] among tech-savvy researchers and librarians for the past year now. But despite this, it seems that few can actually define it. Library Journal has an excellent article from Sept 1, 2006, which stops short of concisely [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] among tech-savvy researchers and librarians for the past year now. But despite this, it seems that few can actually define it. Library Journal has an excellent article from Sept 1, 2006, which stops short of concisely [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Library 2.0 Roundup &#171; Life as I Know It</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-9681</link>
		<dc:creator>Library 2.0 Roundup &#171; Life as I Know It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-9681</guid>
		<description>[...] Library 2.0: The road ahead - posted on December 13, 2005. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Library 2.0: The road ahead - posted on December 13, 2005. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Morrow</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Morrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-242</guid>
		<description>"But vendors are not the only impediments to L2. It might be worthwhile to look a little closer to home. Your largest obstacles may lie within your own organizations. Perhaps you need to finally have that sit-down with your IT department."

Speaking as a network administrator for a library, this statement is freaking me out.  What exactly you mean by this? If a thrust toward a more technologically integrated library is being fought by the IT department, shouldn't they be asking why the IT department feels it's a bad idea, instead of seeing them as an obstacle?

I get requests all the time for instant messaging, gaming machines, cd burners, open shares for people to download to, word processing machines with internet/floppy/usb access, and more.  What I'd like to know is twofold:  who's paying for it and who's got the plan to protect it? I see a lot of pom-pom waving for all the features of L2, but little concern for the steps required to secure this software, much of which is riddled with security vulnerabilities.  Even companies that claim to offer fully protected OPAC systems (like Useful's Discover solution) are highly suspect.  If our shrinking budgets can barely keep up with the cost of licensing, firewalls, spam filters, etc., how can we be expected to pay for anything else.  This L2 thing sounds great on paper, but it would sound even better if we could even begin to pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But vendors are not the only impediments to L2. It might be worthwhile to look a little closer to home. Your largest obstacles may lie within your own organizations. Perhaps you need to finally have that sit-down with your IT department.&#8221;</p>
<p>Speaking as a network administrator for a library, this statement is freaking me out.  What exactly you mean by this? If a thrust toward a more technologically integrated library is being fought by the IT department, shouldn&#8217;t they be asking why the IT department feels it&#8217;s a bad idea, instead of seeing them as an obstacle?</p>
<p>I get requests all the time for instant messaging, gaming machines, cd burners, open shares for people to download to, word processing machines with internet/floppy/usb access, and more.  What I&#8217;d like to know is twofold:  who&#8217;s paying for it and who&#8217;s got the plan to protect it? I see a lot of pom-pom waving for all the features of L2, but little concern for the steps required to secure this software, much of which is riddled with security vulnerabilities.  Even companies that claim to offer fully protected OPAC systems (like Useful&#8217;s Discover solution) are highly suspect.  If our shrinking budgets can barely keep up with the cost of licensing, firewalls, spam filters, etc., how can we be expected to pay for anything else.  This L2 thing sounds great on paper, but it would sound even better if we could even begin to pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: ulo.tricho.us &#187; On Being Derailed</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>ulo.tricho.us &#187; On Being Derailed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-156</guid>
		<description>[...] &#8220;If we&#8217;re arguing over semantics, we&#8217;ve been derailed.&#8221; Thus spake John Blyberg, and he says those sorts of things in meetings all the time, and takes the wind out of some magnificently superfluous tangents. He&#8217;s absolutely right, and the kerfuffle about the term &#8216;Library 2.0&#8216; could have been easily foreseen by the sufficiently jaded. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &#8220;If we&#8217;re arguing over semantics, we&#8217;ve been derailed.&#8221; Thus spake John Blyberg, and he says those sorts of things in meetings all the time, and takes the wind out of some magnificently superfluous tangents. He&#8217;s absolutely right, and the kerfuffle about the term &#8216;Library 2.0&#8216; could have been easily foreseen by the sufficiently jaded. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: 图林中文译站 &#187; 从哪里开始？与Michael Casey关于图书馆2.0的对话</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>图林中文译站 &#187; 从哪里开始？与Michael Casey关于图书馆2.0的对话</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-115</guid>
		<description>[...] 这个讨论正在展开，John Blyberg写了一篇“图书馆2.0的洞见”这里有更多要点需要讨论。看上去很多人都在思考图书馆改变的路标。Blyberg提到了一些障碍——卖方（vendor）就是一个。我情不自禁地想最大的障碍就是我们自己。一些图书馆员是图书馆变革的绊脚石吗？图书馆员是图书馆2.0的障碍吗？ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 这个讨论正在展开，John Blyberg写了一篇“图书馆2.0的洞见”这里有更多要点需要讨论。看上去很多人都在思考图书馆改变的路标。Blyberg提到了一些障碍——卖方（vendor）就是一个。我情不自禁地想最大的障碍就是我们自己。一些图书馆员是图书馆变革的绊脚石吗？图书馆员是图书馆2.0的障碍吗？ [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-104</guid>
		<description>L2OH? all that and you still have not told us what L2 is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L2OH? all that and you still have not told us what L2 is.</p>
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		<title>By: Two Things To Know About Library 2.0 &#171; MaisonBisson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Two Things To Know About Library 2.0 &#171; MaisonBisson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-99</guid>
		<description>[...] You don&#8217;t like the “2.0” moniker? So what. John Blyberg reminds us that “if we’re arguing over semantics, we’ve been derailed.” And Stephen Abram is said to have cautioned us: “when librarians study something to death, we forget that death was not the original goal.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] You don&#8217;t like the “2.0” moniker? So what. John Blyberg reminds us that “if we’re arguing over semantics, we’ve been derailed.” And Stephen Abram is said to have cautioned us: “when librarians study something to death, we forget that death was not the original goal.” [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Young</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-96</guid>
		<description>I wrote an open-source tool (named WikiD) to allow me to do exactly this kind of prototyping. A demo can be seen at http://alcme.oclc.org/wikid/. In essence, it throws OpenURL 1.0, SRW/U, OAI, RSS, etc. into a pile and adds a wiki-style user interface to manage it all. In some cases, things still need to be done behind the scenes, but I have enough patterns now that these typically turn out to be variations of one another. Feel free to contact me for details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote an open-source tool (named WikiD) to allow me to do exactly this kind of prototyping. A demo can be seen at <a href="http://alcme.oclc.org/wikid/." rel="nofollow">http://alcme.oclc.org/wikid/.</a> In essence, it throws OpenURL 1.0, SRW/U, OAI, RSS, etc. into a pile and adds a wiki-style user interface to manage it all. In some cases, things still need to be done behind the scenes, but I have enough patterns now that these typically turn out to be variations of one another. Feel free to contact me for details.</p>
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		<title>By: panlibus</title>
		<link>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>panlibus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blyberg.net/2005/12/13/library-20-the-road-ahead/#comment-94</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Library 2.0 for the have-not's?&lt;/strong&gt;

My occasional Library 2.0-blogging-tennis partner John Blyberg over at Ann Arbour District Library agrees with me about how arbitrary the "Library 2.0" term is. It does seems somewhat arbitrary that a term like “Library 2.0″ can be coined, snatch...</description>
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<p>My occasional Library 2.0-blogging-tennis partner John Blyberg over at Ann Arbour District Library agrees with me about how arbitrary the &#8220;Library 2.0&#8243; term is. It does seems somewhat arbitrary that a term like “Library 2.0″ can be coined, snatch&#8230;</p>
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